There are a few reasons why its possible she's acting this way. Anything from a stressful time to possibly becoming unfaithful.
You need to sit her down and have her talk to you. tell her that the excuse “that she's a piece of crap” is not an acceptable reason as to why she's treating you this way and that if she's unable to explain why, then she risks causing the relationship to break as you don't like her getting upset at everything.
If its stress, tell her there are ways to cope with stress and that there are professionals who can help her learn to cope with stress. If its an affair, you might need to figure out the next step carefully.
I don't know why you're feeling guilty. You need to tell him. He probably doesn't even know, and no one wants to kiss a sewer mouth. Just tell him kindly.
He has ALWAYS been a private person to be honest and this hasn’t changed. I can just see that within the past week I’ve been muted from seeing his stories (which he RARELY posts to anyways).
And the girl on Snapchat is an old coworker who I have known about for 2.5 years and he has assured me is “just a friend”.
I don’t want to gaslight myself but I really don’t know. I wish I could just see actual PROOF in my face because then I would have the strength to move on.
Why do I want to be with him? Because he means a whole hell of a lot to me and I love him deeply.
Has you shown him all of those messages (just those, he shouldn't look through your phone in general or anything), and told/shown him that you were concerned it might count as cheating and asked a friend about it?
Letting him know that you'll ask him if he'd consider something like that cheating if anything similar comes up in the future is the way to go I think. Ask him what the boundaries are if you're ever unsure.
OP, You, and your babies deserve so much better. Please break things off, and get yourselves away.
He’s never going to change. Don’t waste any more time, or your youth on him. You can start over.
Learn from my mistakes, I am an old lady who’s been there, done that, and has the shitty t-shirt. Only I gave my shitty ex a deadline to “improve his behavior”. Fully knowing he wouldn’t, so I got my ducks in a row in the meantime. The deadline came, and went. He didn’t change, so out he went.
NGL- it’s hard, but I wouldn’t change my decision.
There are resources out there if you need help.
Sending you a Mom hug. Take a few breaths, and move forward for your babie’s sakes, if not yours.
Your husband is entitled to know all the facts of the matter when you are asking him to finance your sister’s debt relief. Honestly, if I were in his position I wouldn’t want to give her the money either.
She’s the one that would deal with the repercussions of pregnancy. You don’t even know “what you both are,” despite the two of you having sexual encounters.
Why would she risk anything much less having vaginal sex with you and it being unsafe?
You should break up with her. She handled this with maturity whereas you’re willing to gamble and place both of you into an adult situation. I hope she finds someone more her speed.
From where you’re at OP, I expect that if you don’t wise up you’ll risk getting a poor girl pregnant.
Well there's a lot to unpack here. I think the rule is bogus and you should probably just go back to doing what you were doing. Don't ask or bring it up, just do it. Exercise a little more caution with who you bring around, but ultimately, fuck em.
You dodged a bullet imo though. That's all I'm gonna say about that. From what I've seen, it's probably next you don't fuck with that particular dude anymore, but idk.
He was trippin. “who the fuck are you?” Bro… Come on now. He just seems like more trouble than he's worth. Idk.
Going back to the rule though. Idk what y'all's situation is with the lease and all that, but I'm inclined to tell you to just do what you want and let them bring it back up and tell them that as long as they still get to bring folks over, you should, too. Just, like I said, maybe put a little more consideration into who you do bring around.
I think they are trippin, but I do understand their concern to some degree. Idk though. I'm just a dude on Reddit with the smallest slice of pizza.
My bad I’ll try to explain better, she’s going on a trip to Miami in a few months with her sisters for one of their birthdays’, it was very random how she brought it up… “ so you know I’ll be in Miami and I know you’re okay with me going clubbing with my sisters, how do you feel about me getting a guy’s number? Or flirting when out?” My memory isn’t perfect since I was pretty surprised so take all of this with a grain of salt. But this is very close to how she proposed the question. Just very out of the blue and random.
In regards of her male family members it doesn’t correlate to this because she talks about how much she disdains them so why would she emulate their behavior? And I have no problem with her doing something if it makes her feel safer or if she feels it will help her avoid a dangerous situation. I think her asking me made me feel suspicious but maybe the level of transparency caught be by surprise.
I feel as though there is a duality though because I get a sense she thinks it’s okay to flirt when out and about and she does it to avoid conflict, or she just brought up the safety part as a saving grace because she knows I’m very safety conscious when we are out in public and I agree to avoid bad situations if possible.
Thank you for your advice, On one hand, I think it was crazy calling her that late and on the other, I am still sad about not getting a green light to board the train ?. I will talk to her later today to get a new perspective. Thank you so much
This is incredibly important. While I agree that something needs to be done about him, the act of reporting someone; recounting everything that happened in vivid detail, is something that can be intensely re-traumatizing. Even moreso if the police prove to be apathetic and nothing is done about it. OP's got to take care of herself and her health first, even if we didn't live in a society that can be more focused on victim-blaming than investigation.
I’ve been looking for ways to file for divorce but unfortunately being in Muslim marriage, it is rather difficult for women to file divorce unless he’s being abusive or not giving “nafaqah” for months( he’s been giving me allowances when he was working but now that he’s not earning, he doesn’t)
That's a grown adult, if she wants a man-child that's her cross to bare.
I'm sure someday this will bit her in the ass but your best best is to get away from them ASAP and make sure you don't put put with this type of behavior in whoever you share your home with.
Mark the mail as “addressee unknown” and drop it back in the mail. Tell your mail carrier that you’re receiving mail from a stalker and will be refusing it going forward.
First of all, thank you for your answer! When I said that 20 messages was little, it's mostly compared to the number of messages we used to send each other before and I still count the short messages like “ok nice :)”. What do you mean by vaguely suspicious?I'll try to apply your advice to see if it works for me and if it gets better by the time I go to her place!
I mean, there are definitely people who look “worse” in glasses if you’re going from a purely “societal beauty standards” perspective – unflattering frames can age you significantly, and strong prescriptions with thick lenses can warp your face in a way that’s not necessarily “pretty”. Those people wouldn’t look like themselves without glasses, though – contacts usually aren’t an option at those strengths, so they would be struggling to see and visibly uncomfortable.
Saying “you can’t possibly look worse in glasses” is imo a weird thing to focus on. Physical preferences are physical preferences – we all have them. OP isn’t concerned with whether or not she looks good with her glasses on, she’s concerned because she’s a person who pictures her “baseline self” wearing glasses and her boyfriend is now telling her that said “baseline self” is not his ideal version of her.
It’s like if a woman with naturally curly hair had straightened it a few times during the relationship and all of a sudden her boyfriend was pushing her to do it to meet his friends because that’s how he likes her best. It’s not about whether or not the curly hair is attractive – some people would probably like it more, others less – the issue is that no one should be made to feel that the version of themselves they choose to present every day is somehow less attractive than the version that makes them less comfortable, takes a lot of time, and is a very infrequent thing for them. Being compared unfavourably to a version of yourself that you see as “very much not me, just a fun thing I do every now and again” really sucks.
It’s interesting that you point that out because it’s a big issue for the autistic community. I often see posts where a person’s behavior is declared as “weaponized incompetence” but it’s really based on the assumption that the situation is the same for each person and that’s just not true. I am autistic, and even though I’m very capable, some things are simply a lot harder for me than they are for most people. Hell there are many things that I can do most of the time but can’t do sometimes. That’s just how it is, and I’m glad that my spouse is understanding and I extend that understanding to him as well.
Now to be clear, he should absolutely be open to OP’s feedback about this and to learn coping strategies, and if he doesn’t she should move on because it sounds like she’s fed up. Neurodivergence may be the reason he’s experiencing these problems, but if OP’s needs are not being met in the relationship she shouldn’t stay in it.
This a horrifying mess but like even the hiding the remotes and phone thing alone would be an issue for me but this is all really concerning and the fact that you were trying a different approach means this has clearly happened on multiple occasions. This is abuse, seriously walk away.
Don’t be with this person.
esp after seeing your comment about thinking couples counselling is a scam – of course she does because she knows she’d be called out for her ridiculous and toxic behaviours and have to potentially stop them because you have someone on your side explaining why they’re horrid.
I wouldn't give her anything. She will fight to keep control of OP if she's given this. Besides she's next of kin, so they will ask her anyway.
Maybe don’t leave shitty advice telling others how they feel when they are literally saying the opposite
Hey OP,
There are a few reasons why its possible she's acting this way. Anything from a stressful time to possibly becoming unfaithful.
You need to sit her down and have her talk to you. tell her that the excuse “that she's a piece of crap” is not an acceptable reason as to why she's treating you this way and that if she's unable to explain why, then she risks causing the relationship to break as you don't like her getting upset at everything.
If its stress, tell her there are ways to cope with stress and that there are professionals who can help her learn to cope with stress. If its an affair, you might need to figure out the next step carefully.
I don't know why you're feeling guilty. You need to tell him. He probably doesn't even know, and no one wants to kiss a sewer mouth. Just tell him kindly.
Have you read John Green’s Turtles All the Way Down?
He has ALWAYS been a private person to be honest and this hasn’t changed. I can just see that within the past week I’ve been muted from seeing his stories (which he RARELY posts to anyways).
And the girl on Snapchat is an old coworker who I have known about for 2.5 years and he has assured me is “just a friend”.
I don’t want to gaslight myself but I really don’t know. I wish I could just see actual PROOF in my face because then I would have the strength to move on.
Why do I want to be with him? Because he means a whole hell of a lot to me and I love him deeply.
Has you shown him all of those messages (just those, he shouldn't look through your phone in general or anything), and told/shown him that you were concerned it might count as cheating and asked a friend about it?
Letting him know that you'll ask him if he'd consider something like that cheating if anything similar comes up in the future is the way to go I think. Ask him what the boundaries are if you're ever unsure.
The last sentence!!! Spot on.
OP, You, and your babies deserve so much better. Please break things off, and get yourselves away.
He’s never going to change. Don’t waste any more time, or your youth on him. You can start over.
Learn from my mistakes, I am an old lady who’s been there, done that, and has the shitty t-shirt. Only I gave my shitty ex a deadline to “improve his behavior”. Fully knowing he wouldn’t, so I got my ducks in a row in the meantime. The deadline came, and went. He didn’t change, so out he went.
NGL- it’s hard, but I wouldn’t change my decision.
There are resources out there if you need help.
Sending you a Mom hug. Take a few breaths, and move forward for your babie’s sakes, if not yours.
Your husband is entitled to know all the facts of the matter when you are asking him to finance your sister’s debt relief. Honestly, if I were in his position I wouldn’t want to give her the money either.
You deserve better than this.
I mean it's implied he's the kids father but is he??
This is a telenevela… so is he actually the daddy? Are you a gold digger? So many plot points..
Man and I got shit for giving my boyfriend his gifts 2 days late for his birthday.
Not much shit, TBF, we usually celebrate our birthdays the weekend after the actual day so I was thinking it was the 19th when it was the 17th. ?
She’s playing you hard and wasn’t planning on getting you a damn thing.
OK, so I think this is a terrible idea in most cases, but it's also hilarious. I'd almost want to do it.
I learned this the hard way
She’s the one that would deal with the repercussions of pregnancy. You don’t even know “what you both are,” despite the two of you having sexual encounters.
Why would she risk anything much less having vaginal sex with you and it being unsafe?
You should break up with her. She handled this with maturity whereas you’re willing to gamble and place both of you into an adult situation. I hope she finds someone more her speed.
From where you’re at OP, I expect that if you don’t wise up you’ll risk getting a poor girl pregnant.
Well there's a lot to unpack here. I think the rule is bogus and you should probably just go back to doing what you were doing. Don't ask or bring it up, just do it. Exercise a little more caution with who you bring around, but ultimately, fuck em.
You dodged a bullet imo though. That's all I'm gonna say about that. From what I've seen, it's probably next you don't fuck with that particular dude anymore, but idk.
He was trippin. “who the fuck are you?” Bro… Come on now. He just seems like more trouble than he's worth. Idk.
Going back to the rule though. Idk what y'all's situation is with the lease and all that, but I'm inclined to tell you to just do what you want and let them bring it back up and tell them that as long as they still get to bring folks over, you should, too. Just, like I said, maybe put a little more consideration into who you do bring around.
I think they are trippin, but I do understand their concern to some degree. Idk though. I'm just a dude on Reddit with the smallest slice of pizza.
Uhhh, he’s probably gay… don’t have a second wedding. It’s time for your first divorce…
Has to be a troll post. I honestly can't believe a human being could be this pathetic
My bad I’ll try to explain better, she’s going on a trip to Miami in a few months with her sisters for one of their birthdays’, it was very random how she brought it up… “ so you know I’ll be in Miami and I know you’re okay with me going clubbing with my sisters, how do you feel about me getting a guy’s number? Or flirting when out?” My memory isn’t perfect since I was pretty surprised so take all of this with a grain of salt. But this is very close to how she proposed the question. Just very out of the blue and random.
In regards of her male family members it doesn’t correlate to this because she talks about how much she disdains them so why would she emulate their behavior? And I have no problem with her doing something if it makes her feel safer or if she feels it will help her avoid a dangerous situation. I think her asking me made me feel suspicious but maybe the level of transparency caught be by surprise.
I feel as though there is a duality though because I get a sense she thinks it’s okay to flirt when out and about and she does it to avoid conflict, or she just brought up the safety part as a saving grace because she knows I’m very safety conscious when we are out in public and I agree to avoid bad situations if possible.
Thank you for your advice, On one hand, I think it was crazy calling her that late and on the other, I am still sad about not getting a green light to board the train ?. I will talk to her later today to get a new perspective. Thank you so much
No, I wouldn't date anyone who smokes anything. Let me go check my answer because maybe I wasn't clear.
This is incredibly important. While I agree that something needs to be done about him, the act of reporting someone; recounting everything that happened in vivid detail, is something that can be intensely re-traumatizing. Even moreso if the police prove to be apathetic and nothing is done about it. OP's got to take care of herself and her health first, even if we didn't live in a society that can be more focused on victim-blaming than investigation.
BF: I'm going to distance myself from her
Proceeds to go to her house for a party that his gf could not attend.
I’ve been looking for ways to file for divorce but unfortunately being in Muslim marriage, it is rather difficult for women to file divorce unless he’s being abusive or not giving “nafaqah” for months( he’s been giving me allowances when he was working but now that he’s not earning, he doesn’t)
Your boyfriend is a piece of shit tbh. Soooo many red flags in this story
Saved under a different name and all history deleted. Dude you are delusional
That's a grown adult, if she wants a man-child that's her cross to bare.
I'm sure someday this will bit her in the ass but your best best is to get away from them ASAP and make sure you don't put put with this type of behavior in whoever you share your home with.
Mark the mail as “addressee unknown” and drop it back in the mail. Tell your mail carrier that you’re receiving mail from a stalker and will be refusing it going forward.
Do not respond to him ever in any way.
For example asking to hire a babysitter for himself?
Wtf?? Haha dump him
First of all, thank you for your answer! When I said that 20 messages was little, it's mostly compared to the number of messages we used to send each other before and I still count the short messages like “ok nice :)”. What do you mean by vaguely suspicious?I'll try to apply your advice to see if it works for me and if it gets better by the time I go to her place!
I mean, there are definitely people who look “worse” in glasses if you’re going from a purely “societal beauty standards” perspective – unflattering frames can age you significantly, and strong prescriptions with thick lenses can warp your face in a way that’s not necessarily “pretty”. Those people wouldn’t look like themselves without glasses, though – contacts usually aren’t an option at those strengths, so they would be struggling to see and visibly uncomfortable.
Saying “you can’t possibly look worse in glasses” is imo a weird thing to focus on. Physical preferences are physical preferences – we all have them. OP isn’t concerned with whether or not she looks good with her glasses on, she’s concerned because she’s a person who pictures her “baseline self” wearing glasses and her boyfriend is now telling her that said “baseline self” is not his ideal version of her.
It’s like if a woman with naturally curly hair had straightened it a few times during the relationship and all of a sudden her boyfriend was pushing her to do it to meet his friends because that’s how he likes her best. It’s not about whether or not the curly hair is attractive – some people would probably like it more, others less – the issue is that no one should be made to feel that the version of themselves they choose to present every day is somehow less attractive than the version that makes them less comfortable, takes a lot of time, and is a very infrequent thing for them. Being compared unfavourably to a version of yourself that you see as “very much not me, just a fun thing I do every now and again” really sucks.
I’m going to try and talk to him tonight about it as best I can without making things worse.
It’s interesting that you point that out because it’s a big issue for the autistic community. I often see posts where a person’s behavior is declared as “weaponized incompetence” but it’s really based on the assumption that the situation is the same for each person and that’s just not true. I am autistic, and even though I’m very capable, some things are simply a lot harder for me than they are for most people. Hell there are many things that I can do most of the time but can’t do sometimes. That’s just how it is, and I’m glad that my spouse is understanding and I extend that understanding to him as well.
Now to be clear, he should absolutely be open to OP’s feedback about this and to learn coping strategies, and if he doesn’t she should move on because it sounds like she’s fed up. Neurodivergence may be the reason he’s experiencing these problems, but if OP’s needs are not being met in the relationship she shouldn’t stay in it.
I mean what?
Uh, yikes ???
This a horrifying mess but like even the hiding the remotes and phone thing alone would be an issue for me but this is all really concerning and the fact that you were trying a different approach means this has clearly happened on multiple occasions. This is abuse, seriously walk away.
Don’t be with this person.
esp after seeing your comment about thinking couples counselling is a scam – of course she does because she knows she’d be called out for her ridiculous and toxic behaviours and have to potentially stop them because you have someone on your side explaining why they’re horrid.